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Dan Bettle's avatar

A noble effort, Yoshi. But the heuristic quality is missing, the explanatory power that can inform other spiritual phenomena that demand we grapple with them. In particular, I suggest that NDEs make the expression “more real than real” a clear indicator that God will never fit a category we can claim is declarative and final.

My own project is to resist the Greek concept of the Absolute being used in theology when the only rational claim we can make is that God is our Ultimate.

Reality has layers and we do not, can not, occupy all the levels at once. The use of ‘metaphor’ should be a conscious act of humility.

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Enosedeba's avatar

Well, this is quite an interesting read. And I do agree with most of the things you said but a few points you made were hard to swallow. I personally believe that the word of God is both literal and metaphorical. As much as it is literal, I believe the bible is like a scroll that requires the Holy Spirit to give you insight and understanding.

A quick example is an expression "The hand of the Lord is upon me". This is a metaphorical statement.

Now about your point about God being human since the beginning of time. The word human is from the word humus which means "Earth", as we would see with the creation of Adam whose name also means earth. So basically we can't have "Human" without "Earth".

Now earth is a creation of God, which means it came out of God as an expression of Himself, and from this earth came Adam who was fashioned with the earth to have an expression or a likeness of God. The earth was vital in this creation process. The point is the earth is a creation and God preceeds his creations, so it would not make any sense to say that before the existence of earth, God was human.

John 4:24 lets us know that God is spirit and Jesus affirms that for us to behold the face of the father, we only need to look at him.

The pre incarnate Christ appeared a lot of times in the old testament and if he was human then, he wouldn't have had to be born as one to die. If he was already human since the beginning of time, he only need appear like he did in the old testament to suffer and die, And also note that he returned to heaven only in his spiritual body.

Another note is "God does not sin", "God cannot sin". He is the thrice holy God. While I saw what you were trying to get at, I think it is misleading to tell people that when we sin, God sins. Jesus took on the sin of the world when in his perfection, he decided to take on our mortal bodies.

Apart from these notes, I think it was a really good article. Thank you for sharing this. I think the point was to make it clear that we are sons of God and truly we are. Even creation waits in eager anticipation of the children of God to take up their identity in him.

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